Episode #175
The Regenerative Power of Holistically Managed & Wild Living Systems

We need to scale the regenerative movement by keeping it small… If we can’t keep farmers working in local communities, we won’t have local communities. - Daniel Firth Griffith Share on X

Daniel Firth Griffith is a man of many talents. Poet, author of three books, farmer, hunter-husbandmand, entrepreneur, father — the list goes on.

He’s also the founder and director of the Robinia Institute, which teaches others the regenerative power of holistically managed and wild living systems.

So I knew I had to have his unique (sometimes divisive) perspective on the podcast.

We chat about everything from why it was so difficult for him to get blurbs from regenerative ag experts for his new book to how long New York City would survive if a blip disrupted the food supply chain. 

We also discuss the current and future state of the regenerative movement, what investors are getting wrong about climate tech, the difference between Mother Culture and Mother Earth, how to support the local communities producing our food, and so much more. 

Farmers forced into a system to survive reduce their potential for regeneration. But when farmers make more money, they make more holistic decisions. - Daniel Firth Griffith Share on X

Daniel’s passion, philosophical detours, and hot takes make this an episode I really enjoyed, and I hope you do too.

Tune in now to hear more about

• Daniel’s approach to sharing his stories and writing his best-sellers
• The nuances of soil health and the confusion of verified regenerative protocols
• Why things are getting worse for smallholder family farms
• How we can “do local food better”
• Why Daniel disagrees with people who think we need to scale the regenerative movement to make an impact
• The power of collaboration and a “collective consciousness” for farmers 
• Educating city dwellers about the importance of local, rural communities on food supply chains
• Why technology won’t save us from food scarcity
• Whether companies selling regenerative meats are actually helping

Mentioned in This Episode 

• Daniel Firth Griffith’s website
• Daniel’s podcast Denusion
• Daniel’s Instagram
• Daniel’s new book, Dark Cloud Country
• Daniel’s previous book Wild Like Flowers
• Daniel’s meat company Commons Provisions
• Daniel’s holistic management school, The Robinia Institute
• Dr. Gustin’s Rooted Local Meats

More Resources 

• The Natural State 171: Natalie Kovarik & Tara Vander Dussen – Using Regenerative Ag Practices in Different Regions, The Future of Regenerative Ag, Addressing Climate Change, and More
• The Natural State Podcast Episode 170: Charley Cummings – Fixing a Local Food System by Connecting Farmers with Consumers
• The Natural State Podcast Episode 161: Taylor Collins – Using Regenerative Agriculture to Bring Ecosystems Back to Life
• The Natural State Podcast Episode 150: Richard Perkins – Creating Regenerative Agriculture Ecosystems
• The Natural State Podcast Episode 139: Eric Perner – Optimizing Regenerative Agriculture for a Better Future for Our Planet